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I realise the dumbass here is the guy saying programmers are ‘cooked’, but there’s something kind of funny how the programmer talks about how people misunderstand the complexities of their job and how LLMs easily make mistakes because of an inability to understand the nuances of what he does everyday and understands deeply. They rightly point out how without their specialist oversight, AI agents would fail in ridiculous and spectacular ways, yet happily and vaguely adds as a throw away statement at the end “replacing other industries, sure.” with the exact same blitheness and lack of personal understanding with which ‘Ace’ proclaims all programmers cooked.
I find this is a really common trope where people appreciate the complexity of the domain they work in, but assume every other domain is trivial by comparison.
There’s a saying in Mandarin that translates to something like: Being in different professions is like being on opposite sides of a mountain. It basically means you can never fully understand a given profession unless you’re actually doing it.
a good metaphor :)
Common like water in the sea. People assuming things are simple is pretty much the whole reason why politics is dumb, for example. Even the fascist stuff has a few notes of it.
The Y2K-level event for fixing the many many many mistakes of pure LLM coding without experts driving the things is going to be incredibly lucrative for some people. I’d guess in 3-5 years we’re going to see a whole boutique market around “shit I fired all of the devs and now my codebase is spaghetti (and linguine and angel hair and bow ties with some rigatoni and penne mixed in) to the extent that the AI can’t even try anymore”.
I’d guess this is going to happen in a lot of industries. At some point the undirected slop is going to clog things up to the point companies start folding over it, and then “Unslop LLC” is going to be the hottest shit for a while.
The problem is that too many execs are thinking like this guy. It’s not actually tenable to replace programmers with AI, but people who aren’t programmers are less likely to understand that.
If they actually follow through, there will be a very satisfying level of shit that comes down on their head.
Is this what they call FAFO?
I don’t know if they quite appreciate how if programmers are cooked like this, everyone who isn’t a billionaire is too. Let me introduce you to robot transformer models.
Exactly, to eliminate the need for programmers you would need AGI, and that would simply mean the end of capitalism because at that point any job a human does can be automated.
Ah but I’ll simply ask ChatGPT to generate me a job.
Personally I haven’t gotten any jobs this way but that doesn’t mean employers aren’t cooked
They are 👍
It’s like a conspiracy theory for that guy. Everyone who tells them it’s not true that you can get rid of programmers, has to be a programmer, and therefore cannot be trusted.
To be fair, we should probably all start migrating to cybersecurity positions. They’ll need it when they discover how many vulnerabilities were created by all the non-programmers vibe coding.
We’re cooked because our leaders are pumping the AI bubble while crashing the rest of the economy. When that bubble pops those programmers are going to have to find a job in a nuclear sized crater of where the economy used to be.
When AI can sit through dozen meeting discussing stupid things only to finalize whatever you had decided earlier then I’ll be worried
Personally I would happily let my AI bot attend the stupid scrum meetings for me. Let it tell my scrum master and stakeholders whatever the progress of my day of work and in the sprint. Don’t bother me in my coding time.
We made a (so far internal) tool at work that takes your activity from Github, your calendar, and the issue tracker, feeds that to a local LLM, which spits out a report of what you have been doing for the week. It messes up sometimes, but speeds up the process of writing the report dramatically. This is one of those cases where an LLM actually fits.
You know what they say: (☞ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)☞Fight executive’s bullshit with executive’s bullshit.
