• Bunbury@feddit.nl
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    30 days ago

    I think he wants it removed because of the effect on Tesla. He’d prefer if he could do things without consequences for his actions.

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    29 days ago

    He doesn’t want it removed. He wants to target those using it against him. Nazis using it to praise him are not in the crossfires now.

  • metaStatic@kbin.earth
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    because it didn’t work.

    the whole idea was to trigger the libs with a vague gesture, like that one bitch who turned it into an awkward wave, but he got a little too into it and now people are setting his cars on fire.

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      29 days ago

      I think it’s more that he got a bit too excited about the way the far right can get away with absolutely anything. The media will make excuses for you, the fan base will love it, the more outrageous it is the more it makes libs cry. The democrats will impotently voice objections, the Overton window will move as required, and you will have gotten away with it. I think he wanted to be the star of that whole circus.

  • TheKMAP@lemmynsfw.com
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    29 days ago

    Imagine the leverage you’d need to have to make “the richest person in the world” do a Hitler salute on live TV. Sure, people who tolerate, much less support, Nazi stuff “are Nazis too” but I’m willing to believe that he might not have actual genocidal / thinking races are subhuman / etc beliefs and if he does, it happened recently - way after he became compromised.

    To a certain extent, “bad” people succeed in capitalism and become powerful because of inherent personality traits, and a combination of lack of consequences and privilege creating lack of empathy. But to a much greater extent, I think power is handed to people once enough blackmail material is gathered

    The pedophilia shit is not a coincidence.

    • Psychadelligoat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      29 days ago

      but I’m willing to believe that he might not have actual genocidal / thinking races are subhuman / etc beliefs and if he does, it happened recently - way after he became compromised.

      His lineage is literally the Nazi party, he’s been indoctrinated from birth with that shit, not recently

      But to a much greater extent, I think power is handed to people once enough blackmail material is gathered

      He was born rich and lucked his way to more riches, simple as. Turns out rich idiots just do bad things, so it’s easy to find out that they’ve done so. Quite literally a requirement in capitalism to be a monster if you want to “win”

      • TheKMAP@lemmynsfw.com
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        29 days ago

        I’ve been able to find stuff about his mom’s dad being pro apartheid which is obviously bad but is not “literally the Nazis”. And that his dad claims to say apartheid is bad but said some sus stuff over the years.

        Even if he didn’t do the work himself and sounded like a complete idiot in that leaked Twitter meeting, he did objectively advance society. I think the world is better off with things like Tesla Amazon Uber and DoorDash. Musk outlived his usefulness long ago though and is a net negative now to the point of almost undoing all the good he may had had a hand in creating. Society can survive this level of capitalism if it prevented generational wealth. The incompetency compounds and the inevitable conclusion has finally revealed itself.

        • Psychadelligoat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          29 days ago

          I’ve been able to find stuff about his mom’s dad being pro apartheid which is obviously bad but is not “literally the Nazis”

          So you failed to find the part where they left Canada for South Africa because, as members of the Canadian Nazi Party, Canada wasn’t fucked enough for them? It’s like… Basic info on his family

          he did objectively advance society.

          Lol, no, that would be the people he paid. He deserves 0 credit for that

          I think the world is better off with things like Tesla Amazon Uber and DoorDash

          Oh, so you’re an idiot, gotcha, gonna just disengage

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      29 days ago

      I never actually watched the video. Now that I watched I think he didn’t mean to make a Nazi salute. He pressed his chest before raising his hand. I think he meant to salute his audience. That would also align with what he’s saying.

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    23 days ago

    If you look at the personality organization of malignant narcissists, you learn that their sense of self and even their memory is fragmentary. They’re in the realm of borderline personality organization, which is halfway between neurotic (normal) and schizoid.

    This is why it makes sense to them that history should start fresh every day. They don’t connect actions with consequences because their brains are not set up to do that.