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  • No problem, It’s interesting how differently the terms are used within and outside of the atheist community. I think it’s also important to realize that most Atheists are going to have more certainty when it comes to a specific God not existing, compared to the general concept of a God. It’s much more likely that some kind of God exists than the specific one of a given religion exists. Like I would personally put the general idea of a God existing at maybe 50% (like a God who created the universe and let nature take its course), but the specific God of a given religion that listens to your prayers at near 0%.

    Antitheist is one term, I think the more common one in the same area would be Gnostic Atheist, which given my definitions from before would claim knowledge that gods don’t exist.

    As with anything there are always more sub categories, some go as far as to say knowledge of God is unknowable, or that no form of a God exists, but most seem to stick with Agnostic Atheist, or just Atheist.


  • At least among most Atheists it’s defined as lack of belief. It’s also arguably the most correct definition based on the parts of the word itself.

    Theist is usually defined as “with belief”, so it makes sense that A-theist means without belief. Adding that A to another word usually means without, like asymptomatic (without symptoms) or amoral (without morals).

    The same thing can be said with Agnostic, Gnostic is with knowledge, A-gnostic is without knowledge.

    Agnostic/Gnostic answers the question of “do you have knowledge that a God exists”. Atheist/Theist answers the question of “do you have belief that a God exists”.


  • Chriskmee@lemm.eetoMildly Infuriating@lemmy.worldHow is woke a religion?
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    I think calling Atheism a religion does degrade its value. It brings atheism into the same category as religion, it promotes the idea that atheists need just as much faith as religious people, it basically turns science into a religion.

    Just to be clear, I define Atheism as “without belief in a God”, that would include anyone saying they are agnostic.





  • I’ve never had an experience like that on private trackers. Of the three I’ve used recently, one has no ratio tracking and just a “gentlemen’s agreement” that you seed back. One tracks ratio but doesn’t care about it, they only care that you seed back for X hours during a two week period or something like that, and the last one does track ratio, but you also get points for just seeding content even if nobody downloads from you, and you can use those points to get upload credit. None require a 1:1 ratio on anything.

    I’ve never had problems keeping a good ratio on any of these sites, I just let them seed from my media server until I decide to delete them. I even use a fairly small upload bandwidth since my service provider only gives me like 10Mbps upload.


  • Based on their rules, they might ban content of that nature being talked about in their own communities. However they have a high bar for defederating from other instances. Even if piracy talk isn’t allowed on lemm.ee communities, they won’t defederate from communities that do allow it. This means you can still see it when browsing lemm.ee, but it’s hosted somewhere else.

    What lemmy.world has done is make it so you can’t see anything from those piracy instances when browsing from Lemmy.world. lemm.ee will allow you to see almost anything besides truly disturbing and illegal stuff like porn of the underage variety.


  • Speed, quality, safety, and seed status are the main benefits IMO. The downsides are you have to keep a good ratio or at least not hit and run.

    Back when I used public sites I remember most torrents being slow, in private sites many people use a seed box so even if there are only a couple seeds it’s usually still blazing fast. Since uploaders in private sites have some reputation to upkeep, their releases will usually be quality. I also feel completely safe downloading something with only a couple seeds on private sites, but on public sites I worry if I’m downloading a virus if there are no comments and very few seeds.

    The private sites are also usually not big enough for anyone to care about, so the chances of them being taken down or targeted are minimal.

    I have also not gotten one ISP warning since moving over to private sites years ago, and that’s even with not using a VPN


  • If there is no male genetic advantage, why do males completely dominate the best of the best sports, and why do you say we should still have women’s sports in the elite ranks? Clearly males have a genetic advantage in sports, it’s undeniable.

    Again, one trans women, who still did pretty well, doesn’t prove anything. Look at Avi Silverberg, who came out as trans and dominated women’s weightlifting records.

    If you want proof of the male genetic advantage, just look at how they dominate all the sports that are open to males and females, which is basically all the professional sports. Even though it’s open to both sexes, it’s essentially 100% males. You can’t deny the male advantage, it’s clear as day.


  • You don’t understand what provable means at all. One example of someone who didn’t crush the competition isn’t proof at all. There was a recent trans woman who crushed women weightlifting records, that is an example of your idea being wrong. That person went from ok but not record breaking man to record breaking woman. Are you going to pretend the male genetic advantage had nothing to do with that?

    And let me ask you this, what does a trans woman have to do to be a legitimate trans woman? Does she have to do anything more than say she is a woman? Does she need to take pills to be legitimate? Does she need to shave her beard to be legitimate?

    If all she has to do is proclaim she is a woman, you can’t seriously think that changes her genetic advantage, right? If a person can compete as a man one day and a woman the next, did they lose their male advantage? Or are you going to claim those aren’t real women?

    You can’t ignore that males have a genetic advantage in sports, I think you were even agreeing with that point earlier. How does going from a man to a trans woman overcome biology? It doesn’t. If males have no generic advantage, then why have any women’s sports at all?


  • I mean, people thought Black people had biological differences that would prevent them from competing on an equal footing too. There was literally science about it, in the same way you claim there’s science about trans people. And indeed Black people do dominate certain sports right now. If you want sports to be perfectly fair how can you reconcile that?

    Black people dominate some sports IN THE BEST OF THE BEST DIVISIONS. Trans people are welcome to compete in that best of the best division.

    Are you claiming there is no legitimate scientific provable advantage than trans women have over natural women in sports? Maybe there isn’t anything legitimate for black people, or maybe it’s a minor advantage present in some, but you can’t deny trans women retain significant advantages given they are biologically male.

    Because you’ve a priori agreed Black people competing is worth any amount of “unfairness” that results. The same will be true of trans people in the future.

    Trans can compete in the best of the best leagues like everyone else, yes. They shouldn’t compete in leagues based around biological disadvantage because they don’t have that biological disadvantage.

    Sports will get over trans inclusion; trans people are already being included, even in the Olympics, so the process is happening

    They are more than welcome to compete in the best of the best sports leagues, nobody is banning them from sports, just ones they don’t qualify for.

    So… continue being unhappy about it if you like, the world is moving on and so am I.

    I’m not unhappy about it really, I’m just fighting for equality is all, trying to keep things fair for everyone. I would be totally for a trans league, since they don’t qualify as biological women but probably aren’t good enough to compete at the best levels.

    Just like how I don’t think able bodied people should compete in the special Olympics, I don’t think trans women should compete in biological women based sports, because it’s just unfair to women.

    Let me ask you this, if we are to store trans women in women’s sports, should there be any limits? Can a male bodybuilder decide he is actually a women, then the next day go break records? Would you deny her entry, and if so why?


  • As I said, below the ultra-professional level, yes. Inside the ultra-professional level, gender tests are already not used to differentiate people into competition categories so they’ve already solved this problem.

    Why should we have separate categories at the ultra professional level only? It wasn’t until pretty recently that trans women trying to compete in women’s sports was even a thing, and I believe they do have some tests in certain competitions that would not allow trans women to compete.

    The point is it didn’t used to be. This was because people had research at the time showing that Black people had “higher muscle density” and other nonsense pseudoscience that they used to bar them from the “open to everyone categories.”

    That was also during a time where they were segregated from everything, right? Also, while that reasoning might have been BS, the reasoning for not allowing trans women in women’s sports isn’t. Biology isn’t BS, it’s science. Trans women have a biological and scientifically proven physical advantage over women from birth.

    Since you are just not understanding this: the same arguments used to prevent Black people from competing (they would dominate certain sports, their inclusion would make white people feel bad, their existence is basically the same as taking performance enhancing substances) are literally the same ones used to prevent trans people from competing.

    The reason behind the argument matters a lot. You are comparing racism backed arguments with scientifically backed ones. They aren’t the same argument, they are based on very different reasons.

    Gender is not “more a state of mind than anything else,” any more than sex (or race) is. Trans people are their actual genders, they aren’t pretending to be a man or woman for the day, any more than a Black person is pretending to be a white person or vice versa.

    What I meant is that gender is all in your head, sex and race are not. We should not define sports by what you say you are in your own head. When it comes to bathroom use, sure, base it on gender, aka what is in your head. When it comes to sports, we should use sex, not gender. I’m not trying to bash trans people here, I think they should be treated as the gender they identify with, and that is what I mean by gender being a state of mind, whereas sex is a biological state.

    Unlike gender though, where at some point after birth you can change it, you can’t change your race. One of these is physical, the other is mental.

    Frankly, as I said at the beginning of this discussion, the entire sports argument is stupid though. The rights of an entire minority (yes, their rights) shouldn’t hinge on whether or not they can compete in sporting events, and every time trans liberation is brought up people whine “but what about fairness in sports?”

    Right now everyone has the same rights, so you don’t lose it gain rights by switching genders. There is no right to compete in sports, so no right is lost by banning trans from women’s sports. Maybe you have a different definition of “rights” than the actual definition?

    Maybe trans liberation shouldn’t be fighting for stuff like inclusion in sports? There is such a thing as taking a movement too far. I’m all for fair treatment, access to healthcare, inclusion in society, etc. But when it comes to thinking trans women are exactly the same in every way to a biological woman, that’s just taking it too far and blatantly ignoring science. There are going to be times when we need to separate trans and biological women, and for the sake of fairness and the whole reason women sports what in the first place, trans women shouldn’t play in women’s sports.

    You should find other stuff to care about, because the amount of trans athletes is vanishingly small and the amount of ink spilled on debating their inclusion with sports totally out-of-proportion to the “problem” itself.

    Maybe trans people should find other stuff to care about besides inclusion in sports they aren’t eligible for. I also don’t see anything wrong with stopping a problem now before it becomes a bigger problem. Just look at climate change, how much better would it have been if instead of “it’s not an issue yet, no need to care about it” we actually did care about it many years ago? Personally I don’t like waiting for problems to become big problems before doing something.


  • But gender is not a useful way to do that and hasn’t been for years.

    So you are for getting rid of women’s sports, special Olympics, and everything in that realm and just letting everyone compete as people of the human race?

    But ultimately I just don’t think sports matters more than peoples’ rights.

    What rights? There is no right to compete in stuff you are not eligible for.

    So if we have to abolish gendered sports, especially below the ultra-professional level, I’m fine with that.

    So you are fine with women essentially never being competitive in sports? Personally I think it’s great they have their own league, because otherwise there wouldn’t really be women in sports.

    And yes, people did indeed claim certain races had advantages in sports and pointed to science about muscle density to support their theories. They would consider themselves well-justified by Black people dominating certain sports. It is the same with trans athletes.

    Except that they are competing in the open to everyone category, even if some races had an advantage, that’s legal in an open to everyone category. Women’s sports are not open to everyone, only to biological females who don’t take performance enhancing substances. Again, if you want to essentially remove women from sports by pretending biological males and females are the same, that’s your grave to dig.

    Race isn’t the same as gender, I’m hoping you realize that. In today’s world, gender is more a state of mind than anything else, race is not. I can choose to become the opposite gender, I can’t choose to be black as a white person.

    If trans athletes want to compete in sports, compete in the open to everyone league, don’t try to compete in leagues you don’t qualify for. Women’s sports, if they are to still exist, are for biological and non testosterone taking females only.


  • How can it not matter? You have a sport built around the idea of fair competition to a genetic physical weakness, and you think we should just throw that all away? I’m not sure why you are bringing race and nationality into this discussion, that’s never been a race based disadvantage that we decided we needed to design sports around.

    Our a priori assumption must be trans people should be included everywhere as much as possible,

    I agree, but I think sports falls under “not possible” because they don’t meet the requirements for the women’s league. I have no problem with a trans league, or they are more than welcome to compete in the best of the best league. I don’t think they should be competing in women’s sports, it’s unfair to all biological women athletes who compete against other biological women athletes.

    And if you want to compare it to race, where the idea of a race segregated sport would be super controversial, let’s just get rid of women’s sports all together. Women are equal to men, right? They can do anything a man can do, right? What are we pretending women aren’t equal by putting them in their own sports leagues? Let’s just get rid of all women’s sports, let them compete directly with the men, and may the best win.


  • Here is the thing when it comes to sports, there are usually two main divisions in most sports, the best of the best league, and the women league. In most sports there is technically no rule against women playing in the best of the best leagues, but they are just at so much of a disadvantage it is almost unheard of for them to be able to compete at that level. The only reason that women only sports exist is to allow people with that biological disadvantage to compete professionally against others with the same disadvantage. It’s a league that’s sole purpose is to allow women to be competitive against other women because the men are just so much better.

    It might sound like I’m bashing women’s sports, but I’m not. I’m glad women have an avenue to compete at pro levels, because without women only sports they would not.

    I have no problem with anybody trying to compete in the best of the best league, men, women, trans, black, white, etc. But when it comes to leagues specifically limited to give those in the league a fair competition, we shouldn’t be opening that up to those who don’t have the disadvantage that defines the league. This applies to women leagues, the special Olympics, and other limited leagues.