• thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    i moved to .world from .ml because of the annoying ass tankies. it’s not what they were saying that annoyed me it was their attitude. they acted like 14 years olds that just discovered atheism and think everyone else on the Internet is Catholic.

    but also, the intense defense is Russia and China was pretty dumb. i get hating America. that’s fair and valid, but to do so while pretending that these other imperialistic super powers don’t also suck is pure denialism.

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      I get down voted from the .ml crowd for informing them their support of Trump, either direct or inadvertent, isn’t going to save Palestine its just going to get trans people killed and this gets me either blocked or banned. These people see an authoritarian and they can’t help but get a boner.

      I’m a socialist. But I’m an anti authoritarian first.

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      Arguing that either China or Russia suck comparably as much as the US as current things stand is crazy. Most criticism of China is made-up anticommunist propaganda, criticism of Russia is often coated in russophobic tropes originating in Nazism and highly chauvinistic in nature (yes, Russia is on a downwards spiral of concerning fascist trends in government, but so is the entire west, literal Sieg Heil in US president inauguration and fascist parties in Germany and Austria).

      Westerners focusing their criticism on countries doing a fraction of the evil their own countries do is simple western exceptionalism and nationalism. Neither China nor Russia have anything in their recent history remotely comparable to the genocide in Gaza, the invasion of Iraq, the carpet bombing of Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia and Korea, the history of coups and support of fascist regimes, and the history of colonialism of the west.

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        2 months ago

        i never said they were as bad as America lol. why do you have to go so far out of your way to defend two of three largest and most antagonistic countries in the world. they all suck, splitting hairs about degrees of evil isn’t worth the time.

        don’t be expansionist.

        don’t be imperialist.

        don’t hate people for how they were born.

        don’t antagonize ethnic minorities.

        all three countries are failing at more than one of these right now. they all suck.

        they really don’t need the help either…

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          Saying that Russia is on a downward spiral towards fascism is defending it?

          My point isn’t that you should be defending Russia or China, my point is that there’s a very disproportionate amount of criticism of Russia/China compared to the US in the west, especially flagrant if we compare how actually harmful each of these is.