• vermaterc@lemmy.ml
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    21 hours ago

    A few things to point out:

    • Microsoft created this extension and pays money to develop it
    • Despite that, they give it to programmers for free. It is still free of charge.
    • They explicitly said that using it outside of their products is forbidden (according to article: at least 5 years ago), they just didn’t enforce it
    • Someone (here: Cursor developers), despite that, used it in their products and started to make money from it

    What exactly are you mad at? When will programming community finally understand that Microsoft is not a non-profit company and its primary purpose is to make money?

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      3 hours ago

      Don’t be upset it took people a long time to realize Visual Studio Code is fauxpen source, just be glad they’re finally realizing it. No need to be condescending and make people feel ashamed over it.

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      13 hours ago

      The problem is that they’re killing competition. Treating a company with the market dominance of Microsoft like a normal company would be fatal for humanity. Because they are eliminating innovation by Cursor and they do not need to do this to finance their own innovation. Effectively, humanity gets less innovation by Microsoft doing this.

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        The problem is that they’re killing competition.

        So, they pay to develop a product, for themselves, explicitly says “it’s only for us, shoo shoo”, and when they decide that their product, that they pay for, and provide for free to their user, should not be used by other, it kills the competition that did not do anything except take the product for free despite being told not to?

        I’m not on the side of Microsoft for most things. But if doing nothing but taking someone else’s free product qualifies to be competition that should be protected, we’re having problems.

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          You’re looking at it in isolation, I’m looking at it in terms of this being Microsoft, a company which has held humanity back for most of its existence, now retracting something where they did a decent thing for once.

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        11 hours ago

        But Microsoft developed it in the first place. It’s perfectly within their rights to pull it and developers making money off of their work isn’t bad either. I love a good pitchfork to corporate, but this is honestly fine.

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          11 hours ago

          Well; companies used to get anti-trust laser canon’ed from orbit for less; but good luck with that in modern America

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            I wholeheartedly agree that monopolistic practices should be nuked instantly, but I disagree that this was ever well enforced. Microsoft got away with murder in the 90’s before they went to court and even then, feels like they got a slap on the wrist…

            I think that this particular case is very far from that, but it does start to smell the same.

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        Embrace.

        Extend.

        Extinguish. Extract rent now that everyone lives in / depends on your proprietary ecosystem.

        I’d say they can’t keep getting away with it!, but history shows they clearly can.

        Literally monopolist strategy 101.

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      19 hours ago

      It’s also blocked in VSCodium whose developers are not making money off it.

      So that’s not a nice thing.

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        10 hours ago

        At least VSCodium cares about software licenses, (see it works both ways)

        That Cursor (an AI focused) fork doesn’t shouldn’t be very shocking.

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      20 hours ago

      Plus you can always just use clangd. Its what I’ve always used with every text editor that has LSP support.

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        Honestly moving to clangd has got to be the single best thing I’ve done in C++, it’s cross platform and I’ve found it to be significantly faster, more reliable, and more featureful than Microsoft’s C++ plugin by a long shot

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          I havent used vscode in while but I do remember having a lot of issues with the Microsoft C++ plugin, especially in large projects. I switched to clangd very quickly.

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        Clang is a better C++ compiler than msvc, it generates faster binaries and can compile complex code that msvc errs on at least in my experience YMMV.

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        I wish there was a GCC equivalent; but even if clang is a corpowhore project it’s atleast OSS