You can want that all day. Still an absolutely unworkable plan. If you actually care about the environment, work towards realistic goals instead of letting perfect be the enemy of good.
Within our current political-economic system? End subsidies for farmed meat, subsidize alternatives, and raise awareness on the issue as well as about health effects of excess meat consumption.
This will have the “push” effect of driving up farmed meat prices while having the “pull” effects of cheaper, healthier alternatives. There is nothing in particular to enforce.
Edit: and as the market on farmed meat becomes less profitable producers will leave the industry as well which leads to a sort of “spiral” as scarcity goes up, raising prices, pushing more away.
Exactly. And subsidizing vat grown meat is a great way to supercharge those efforts.
But it’s also has a lot of people outing their true intentions. A lot of folks who claimed they advocated for meatless diets for environmental reasons still oppose vat grown meat. Because really they just want to force their preference on others.
If nobody lessened their consumption habits and just switched to “vat grown meat”, that would not solve the core of the problem. While less resource intensive than farm grown meat, it’s still resource intensive.
As I said before, it can exist to fill the voids left by other solutions, but it is not a solution in and of itself. For this reason it should not be the priority as the priority should be on growing/promoting other less intensive alternatives and lessening consumption itself.
That’s simply not true. The energy cost for beef is astronomical.
How do you plan to enforce less meat consumption?
Rationing. No store is allowed to sell more than X amount of meat to any individual.
It’d create black markets and such, but the overall consumption would still go down.
You can want that all day. Still an absolutely unworkable plan. If you actually care about the environment, work towards realistic goals instead of letting perfect be the enemy of good.
What did I say that isn’t true? I never said the energy cost of beef wasn’t huge. Quite the opposite in fact…
Maybe I misread. So what’s your plan to enforce it?
Within our current political-economic system? End subsidies for farmed meat, subsidize alternatives, and raise awareness on the issue as well as about health effects of excess meat consumption.
This will have the “push” effect of driving up farmed meat prices while having the “pull” effects of cheaper, healthier alternatives. There is nothing in particular to enforce.
Edit: and as the market on farmed meat becomes less profitable producers will leave the industry as well which leads to a sort of “spiral” as scarcity goes up, raising prices, pushing more away.
Exactly. And subsidizing vat grown meat is a great way to supercharge those efforts.
But it’s also has a lot of people outing their true intentions. A lot of folks who claimed they advocated for meatless diets for environmental reasons still oppose vat grown meat. Because really they just want to force their preference on others.
If nobody lessened their consumption habits and just switched to “vat grown meat”, that would not solve the core of the problem. While less resource intensive than farm grown meat, it’s still resource intensive.
As I said before, it can exist to fill the voids left by other solutions, but it is not a solution in and of itself. For this reason it should not be the priority as the priority should be on growing/promoting other less intensive alternatives and lessening consumption itself.
The type of resources matters. Not using the same amount of land and grain needed for living animals is a significant impact.