As simple as possible to summarize the best way you can, first, please. Feel free to expand after, or just say whatever you want lol. Honest question.

      • IttihadChe@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        4 days ago

        I am genuinely curious what these conflicting attributes are in your view.

        But also, from a dialectical lens, contradiction exists in all things in our own observable reality, from the lowest levels of the concept of movement to the highest levels of the organization of human society. Why would a seeming contradiction be proof that God cannot exist?

        • Geodad@lemm.eeEnglish
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          4 days ago

          That’s the nature of a contradiction. 2 or more mutually exclusive attributes can’t exist together.

          • IttihadChe@lemmy.mlEnglish
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            4 days ago

            But contradiction exists everywhere in our understanding of nature and the universe.

              • Manmoth@lemmy.ml
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                3 days ago

                Just for the sake of argument… According to what standard? Yours? Why should we follow your standard?

                • Geodad@lemm.eeEnglish
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                  3 days ago

                  My standard is logic, reason, and evidence.

                  Why shouldn’t you follow my standard?

                  • Manmoth@lemmy.ml
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                    3 days ago

                    From my other comment:

                    Arguments for God’s existence (such as classical theistic arguments) are not merely isolated truth claims—they function at the paradigmatic level, offering a foundation for knowledge itself.

                    If you deny God’s existence, you must account for the reliability of reason, logic, and abstract universals like mathematics. If these are simply “self-evident,” then you’re assuming the very thing your worldview has no means to justify.

                    Assuming you don’t believe in God…

                    without a transcendent source of rationality, why assume logic is binding or that it applies universally?

                    Basically you’re in no position to determine whether God is imperfect or not if you can’t justify the tools you use to make that assessment.

              • IttihadChe@lemmy.mlEnglish
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                4 days ago

                I don’t believe it would. Perfection can, and insofar as perfection exists in our reality does, exist alongside perceived contradiction as contradiction exists in all things.

                • Geodad@lemm.eeEnglish
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                  4 days ago

                  Also, that’s fallacious logic to think that imperfection doesn’t make the thing imperfect.

                • Geodad@lemm.eeEnglish
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                  4 days ago

                  The god that the isrealites originally worshipped was a rather weak storm god.

                  Somehow over the centuries, its cult has conflated it into some all powerful entity.

                  If it were to stay in its original manifestation, I still wouldn’t believe it existed, but I would take a more agnostic approach to it - as I do with gods from other myths.