For me it would probably be Canada. Seems like we share alot of values with them, and we could do more trading than we do today.

Especially if they also will have tensions with the US, it would be a win win.

But what do you guys think? Northern Africa would be an obvious choice in the future, but I don’t know if they’re ready.

PS. This is not a post talking about leave the US entirely. Ofc not. It would just be better for us to work with others and expand our worldview a little.

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    What rights do you have in Europe that we don’t have in the US?

    In Europe we get more rights, and in the US you loose your right to abortion entirely.

    That’s not true at all. In fact, lots of states give access to abortion much longer than Europe does. And before anyone says healthcare, we do have universal healthcare, it’s just used as a safety net rather than a default. Every American has access to it as long as they meet financial requirements. I spent 4 years on it myself and it was great.

    The US is not trying to take anything, we’re negotiating prices for territorial strategies.

    I think whatever news you watch or listen to is fear mongering.

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      What rights do you have in Europe that we don’t have in the US?

      Easy. Privacy.

      Right to our data. Freedom to choose an App Store, search engine etc for our phones. Geo-locking is illegal for our digital services. We could continue?

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        We have the right to privacy too, though the tech version you lay out here are more robust. Our right is to not purchase the products that require us to give access to our data. There are ways to keep private online, but it is much more difficult.

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          Our right is to not purchase the products that require us to give access to our data.

          You can’t hear how that sounds? Congratulations, you are allowed to NOT buy something.

          You’re not even told when they steal your data, because there’s not even a rule for that either.

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            I didn’t say it’s perfect or even good, I don’t like it either, but we’re talking rights. Here, the product has a right to take our data as long as we consent to it - and you’re wrong, we are told when they take our data, most of us just don’t read the print, and click accept.

            Not sure why you’re so bitter about it, or why you’re so consistently wrong about absolute rights we do or don’t have.